A similar looseness shapes how the song came together: they flipped their usual process, building the track from the ground up before adding words. "We wanted to try writing in a new way and wrote this song with [Bristol-based singer-songwriter] George Glew," they say. "We created the vibe of the instrumentation before we wrote any lyrics or melody to make it feel really good first, which created something really poppy and fun - we think the core of it is still very us, and we decided to take the lead vocal together rather than just one of us taking a lead."

Both voices move side by side rather than taking turns, reinforcing that conversational quality that carries through both their music and their personalities. A lot of that openness has come from finishing 'The Prize'. With a debut album behind them, the need for every song to carry huge meaning has started to fall away. "We realised that it's important to separate ourselves somewhat from the music," they explain. "It's easy to feel as an artist that everything you put out has to define you as an individual, and we've come to the realisation that it doesn't always have to be that deep. A song can just be a split-second feeling rather than the whole story. We're feeling much freer in the writing process."

That freedom shows up everywhere, including in how casually they hold the future. "We're not really sure yet!" they grin, when asked how the track fits into what is coming next. "You could even say that this song is a crumb in itself, a promise of something that may or may not ever materialise again!" Space is being left for things to unfold, to surprise them. "There's such a build-up to a debut album where you feel that the body of work has to define you as an artist, and having it done now gives us a new sense of freedom and fun that feels really nice."

Away from the studio, that mindset has translated into a slower pace, filling time with things that have nothing to do with release cycles or expectations. "We've been playing chess and tennis and gardening and lots of dancing. Having an intentional break between albums has been really useful for thinking about why we want to make music. Now more than ever, we're seeing the power in making music that is joyful as an antidote to dark times." That sense of joy feels like the throughline. Even when the subject matter drifts into obsession or overthinking, it is handled with a lightness that keeps things moving.

Next up is a very exciting trip to the US. "We're about to record our next album in New York!" they say. "We'll be playing some festivals and getting ready for the new album."

And if ‘Crumb’ says anything about where Prima Queen are at, it is right there in the way they describe it: “‘Crumb’ is about when you are in a state of limerence for someone and all you have of them is a tiny little bread crumb they left you, but you like that crumb a lot. So you cling on to that little freckle of hope for dear life, dreaming that one day it could become a bagel, or a baguette, or a sexy little sourdough boule.”

Slightly ridiculous, and taken just seriously enough to turn into something great - which feels very much like them.

Prima Queen's single 'Crumb' is out now.